i had a deep conversation with my elder father today about the bible.
first i talked to him about luke 16:19-31. the one where jesus makes this crazy illustration regarding the afterlife.
of course he had to look it up on the watchtower library to be spoon fed his beliefs.
(Galatians 1:9) "Whoever is declaring to you as good news something beyond what you accepted, let him [the GB] be accursed."
Millions of JW's have either gladly or reluctantly exchanged their original truths/beliefs for the "new lights" conjured up by whoever the latest governing body happens to be.
Isn't being "in the truth" today unrecognisable from what it was years ago!!!!
hi,i'm lost and a little sad.
i actually like the jw faith.
some might call this faith cold, strict, dogmatic but they're just trying to follow rules and give back to god.
Welcome Ahava. If you'd like to read how JW doctrines actually oppose/lie about what the Bible says, PM me and I'll provide you with numerous examples of Bible versus literature teachings.
As someone who was once a zealous JW, they convinced me 100% that the governing body of JW's is definitely not being directed God.
if i am understanding correctly only 144,000 will go to heaven, to be with jesus and help rule?
these 144,000 are witnesses only.
there is over a million jw world wide, what happens to the rest of the faithful followers.
Canadian Sunshine - Isn't it totally logical that Christ, after having been given all of God Almighty's power & authority, would need the help of tens of thousands of J.W.'s to resurrected to heaven to help rule the universe? (Matthew 28:8: 1 Corinthians 15:24-28)
Especially when Revelation 5:10 clearly says (in the original Greek) that they will be upon the earth - not floating over it! (see the Kingdom Interlinear Translation of JW's for confirmation)
i remember when that came out, my mother didn't catch it in the original article in the wt.
it was in one of the review "do you remember" thingies that she caught it.
she asked me if it means what she thought it meant.
Why hasn't there been a mass exodus? My closest friend in my last congregation sums it up: "Where else can we go?"
"Better the devil you know" attitude!
in my psychology studies we've been examining the use of "labels" and how they influence peoples behaviour.
i sometimes wonder if the gb or their helpers know exactly what they're doing when it comes to psychological manipulation.. it's been observed that by labeling someone or something it changes your entire perception of that person or thing.
it colours it entirely, quite unfairly in some cases.
Pale Emperor - "I sometimes wonder if the GB or their helpers know exactly what they're doing when it comes to psychological manipulation."
Nope, but I am convinced that the real high-control group leaders - the faceless and nameless ones who in reality master the multi-billion dollar cult - have over the decades employed the services of individuals who advised/directed on the use of psychological techniques.
It's been said before - it's totally ludicrous to think that the 8 king-priests in Warwick (KP) could run a bath, let alone a billion dollar corporation.
Remember KP NUTS? Well that's who JW's have ruling them - 8 self-serving nuts!
while enjoying one of my favourite snacks the other day, (hula hoops) i suddenly had this thought; if ever a metal nut is hard to loosen with a wrench, usually a a couple of sharp hits with a hammer is enough to break the grip of whatever is holding it - usually rust.
similarly, crunching on foods which can impart small shockwaves to a capped tooth could have the same effect and cause the hardened dental cement to fracture and loosen the crown.
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While enjoying one of my favourite snacks the other day, (Hula Hoops) I suddenly had this thought; if ever a metal nut is hard to loosen with a wrench, usually a a couple of sharp hits with a hammer is enough to break the grip of whatever is holding it - usually rust. Similarly, crunching on foods which can impart small shockwaves to a capped tooth could have the same effect and cause the hardened dental cement to fracture and loosen the crown. (cap)
I Googled and found a site which warns against eating certain foods if you have capped teeth.
https://www.cavendental.com/blog/what-are-the-top-foods-to-avoid-with-a-dental-crown-in-place
Just a thought.
oh dear, i recently made a comment about an elder being dogmatic.
and one of his best buddies sent me a wt article to help me realign my mind or something.
this is where reality separates from fantasy and fiction.
Elders? Men who are willing to sacrifice all traces of human decency and reasoning in order to keep their position of authority and the approval of their charlatan masters.
Try saying this to one of these wolves in sheep's clothing, and see if they are prepared to follow the Bible's counsel:
"Excuse me brother Elder, but I have to say that in all my years as a servant of Jehovah, [WTBTS] I've never met a single Elder who ever applied this Bible teaching to themselves" - ....Openly confess your sins to one another. (James 5:16)
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Thanks again Atlantis!
A simple scriptural 'Yes' or 'No' by the self-appointed "faithful slave" would have sufficed. (food at the proper time, blah, blah, blah)
But no, devious & slimy wording and obfuscation in order to suppress male JW's freedom of choice. Control is everything to the mentally diseased (Tm) priests in Warwick.
i wasn't so sure how to add title in this topic.
i went back to the borg, for family reasons and the concept was after a year or so to fade out.
i m into the fade out process now.
You have a PM with some crucial points to apply when fading. I wish you as peaceful a fade as me and my better half have experienced. (so far)
perhaps this line of questioning could agitate a jw's thinking.
it can't hurt.. you: is shunning a biblical teaching?.
jw: yes.. you: so it must be god's law?.
w83 4/1 p. 24 par. 18 Reject Apostasy, Cling to the Truth!
"Therefore, no loyal modern-day witness of Jehovah (not Christ!) would greet a disfellowshipped or disassociated apostate or allow that one to use his Christian home as a place from which to spread doctrinal error."
That's what Kingdom Halls are for - to spread doctrinal error, but primarily to make money for a U.S. "charity" which doesn't declare its income & expenditure to the suckers who donate.
Isn't "God's earthly organization" a shining example of openness and honesty!!!!!!!
